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Re: EDR doc
- From: Leonardo Lima <
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- Subject: Re: EDR doc
- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:36:11 -0200
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Werner Keil
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Leonardo/all,
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Thanks a lot for the update. Sounds great also including videos. We might
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put them on the project page.
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Having a bit of diversity of sites is inevitable for a JSR since some of
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the material must be provided on jcp.org, that won't go away. java.net
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offers a slightly more comfortable download file server, that is pretty
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much all we use and of course JIRA and this mailing list (for internal
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purposes, the more public ones are on Google Groups where people can add or
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remove themselves more easily)
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The idea is to have the JSR page in the JCP site as entry-point, pointing
to the Java.NET page because there we have a very good menu on the left
pointing to the right resources. This, or update the JSR page with the
correct mailing lists and download site as information change.
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I think we should try to deprecate the old domain. There is currently just
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one of the domains I registered that works with DNS, the others are
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ultra-cheap (hence registered for 5 years) but they seem very restricted,
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so they work for short package names only and for Maven/Nexus. There is one
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http://uom.technology/ that works. Currently embeds the Github page, I
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might change that to an auto-forward similar to javamoney.org, but I
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think we could use the github.io brand and site just as well (I could
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reserve that domain, there are new ".tech" ones coming up in the near
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future, so I don't know if I keep the longer version, "
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unitsofmeasurement.github.io" shall remain behind them)
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Let's try and do this in January.
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Great that you tried with the Freescale board. We should be able to
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follow-up while there in January. The Locale is already removed. I saw ME
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8.1 has a new SDK and plugins for both NetBeans and Eclipse. It was a
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little odd when I used NetBeans at Eclipse DemoCamp Hamburg to demonstrate
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Heart of Glass. That and ME 8 were so far the only reasons to use NetBeans.
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Ideally al but the ME projects should be fully Maven-enabled, so Heart of
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Glass can also be demonstrated.
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If there's time or other Hackathons, it would be a great thing to port GNU
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I/O to the new Device I/O library in Heart of Glass.
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We used the Eclipse version of the SDK, I installed everything on site,
downloading from the Oracle website. I did find some problems after a while
and I can't tell if this is a problem of Eclipse, the Mobile Java Tools
(MJT) or the ME SDK itself (Device manager, etc). That's another item on my
list to Oracle :)
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None of that is a show-stopper for EDR, so I think we should file it
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before the F2F, otherwise we risk slipping past the deadline[?]
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The "gas pump" scenario would be nice to add to the use cases. Do you
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think either you or Otavio (happy to give him write-access, I believe so
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far it's mostly Spec Leads and Martin, plus I added Chris for Automotive,
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who just joined the new EG a few days ago) could write something about it
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in the Spec?
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Sure, I write it down.
Regards,
Leonardo.
Old email below this line, you can go back up now :)
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Regards,
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Werner
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Leonardo Lima
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> Hello, Werner!
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> In the Hackaton we were me, Patrick, Otavio and Bruno Souza. As I told
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> you, my objective was to read the document and run the API/RI in the K64F
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> and K70TWR platforms. From those objectives, only running the API in the
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> K64F was finished... Some pictures were taken and I saw them in Twitter.
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> We compiled the API using the Java ME 8.1 SDK. That's when the Locale
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> problem showed up and I then realized that if we really want to target ME,
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> we should compile using Java ME tools. I don't have enough maven experience
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> to know how to do that using Maven, but clearly even compiling with Java
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> 1.5 JDK allowed "bad ME code" through (the Locale). So this is one of the
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> things I'm compiling to send Oracle (Terrence) as questions. The API itself
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> was OK and I could use the API to change some LEDs based on a "volume
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> provider" that exposed Volume. The K64F is a memory constrained device
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> (only 60k RAM), so it was a good test and it did work, the API and our
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> mini-API implementation.
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> Otavio and I changed our objectives a little: to implement a real use
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> case (a gas pump that contained both Money and UoM uses, from the view of
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> both provider and user) and we started implementing the API. I confess I
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> didn't read the API docs first so it took a while, but we got something
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> working (I'll upload it somewhere later). And that made even more evident
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> that I have to read the API docs and fully understand this not only from
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> the RI PoV but also as a platform provider, because this will clear stuff
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> like optionality.
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> Again, I have to read and re-read the API docs and I'll do this Saturday.
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> What's the limit to file without breaking JCP time frames? I don't think
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> I'll have many changes, but... I was talking with Patrick about the F2F and
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> that we want to present our work there. He said it's all ok and we should
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> send the PMO an email to add this to the agenda. With this, I find that if
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> we could file so that the ballot was open during the F2F, then we could
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> answer any question that might arise. As the new JCP EC members are taking
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> office and holiday season is approaching, I think the ballot should be open
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> in January. So, do you know the dates? Or should we ask the PMO?
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> During the event, some people showed and I present to them how stuff were
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> done in our EG: the Jira, mailing list, github. This "spontaneous"
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> presentation was seen by Patrick as well and he asked us to record to a
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> video of me presenting how the JSR363 work was done and how people could
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> help etc etc. So Bruno taped it and I believe is editing it so that Patrick
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> can use on JCP evangelization work. Patrick asked me to present this again
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> in the F2F, so maybe we show the video, or I re-do the presentation there.
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> Well, that's quite it. From the presentation, I confirmed that we have
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> too much information spread all around: github, java.net, the JCP page,
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> old domain pages, old mailing lists. I think we should work during the F2F
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> to trim this a little and deprecate some of the old stuff.
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> Regards,
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> Leonardo.
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> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Werner Keil
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>> Leonardo,
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>> I saw Patrick also joined you for the Hackathon in Brazil[?] If I still
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>> find the pics on Facebook (Otavio posted them) I may add them to our
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>> blog/project page. Where put a pic from JavaOne just the other day. Maybe
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>> more once I off-load the second SIM card (but first I need to backup all
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>> the other pics to make space[?])
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>> Aside from the ME related issue, did you come across any significant
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>> question or problem?
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>> I updated the spec a bit more with terms like format/parser and RI
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>> specific stuff including the Measurement type and why it is not part of
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>> the
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>> API.
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>> If there are no major problems or things we feel are missing, I'd love
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>> to submit it to PMO around the end of this week. There are some of the new
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>> EE JSRs for ballot next week, but other than votes by the EC there should
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>> be little more work for the PMO with them. So hopefully we can get to EDR
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>> stage before Christmas and present it at the January F2F, too. If Patrick
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>> also saw it briefly, that sounds good, too.
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>> Regards,
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>> Werner
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>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Werner Keil
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>>> Hi Leonardo,
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>>> Cool, did you find a way around the issue that ME 8.x had at least in
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>>> NetBeans? Or do you plan to use the older version of the demo that has
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>>> working all along?
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>>> Please have a look at the spec before we file EDR. I rephrased parts
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>>> and most open items are marked as resolved. Add new comments or questions
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>>> if you want.
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>>> Regards,
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>>> Werner
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>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Leonardo Lima
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>>>> Hey, Werner!
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>>>> Tomorrow we'll have a Hackergarten here in Brazil for Money and UOM
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>>>> JSRs and we should 1) proofread/verify the EDR doc and 2) have the RI
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>>>> running in the Java ME 8.1 GA for K64F and K70 boards from Freescale.
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>>>> Just to let you know!
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>>>> Regards,
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>>>> Leonardo.
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