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[jsr363-experts] Re: ISO systems
- From: Martin Desruisseaux <
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- Subject: [jsr363-experts] Re: ISO systems
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:12:09 -0700
- Organization: Geomatys
Hello Werner
What are the differences between ISO 80000 and the BIPM documents
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http://www.bipm.org)? If the content are basically equivalent, is there
restriction about using BIPM (which I think is the most authoritative
source of SI definitions anyway)?
Martin
Le 27/04/16 à 08:12, Werner Keil a écrit :
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Dear Experts,
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Thanks for taking the time to help with names for ISO 80000 classes
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and modules earlier.
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While discussing in
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https://github.com/unitsofmeasurement/uom-systems/issues/30 the
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correct place for "pH" (unit of acidity) and maybe others (e.g.
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Scoville for chilly or a Currywurst;-) I mentioned, that should be
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part of ISO and it looks like ISO80000-9 is the domain specific place
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for it. UCUM also knows this unit so the UCUM module is good to use
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it, UCUM is free to use under a somewhat BSD-like license (with a few
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more extra terms, but nothing that should keep you from using it in
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your apps) it occurred to me, that although Wikipedia briefly mentions
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a few units under ISO 80000 most of them are not listed entirely.
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And came across the ISO License
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Agreement http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/licence_agreement.htm
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somewhat similar to commercial ones by Oracle or others (remember,
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Oracle's lawyers compared API design to writing a book or other forms
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of art once in the Android case;-)
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Fact is, while the likes of Unicode/ICU or UCUM use very open license
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terms similar to Apache or BSD, at least ISO and other organizations
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make a living from the sales of their catalogs, therefore the content
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falls under Copyright and IP terms which does not allow us or anybody
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else to publish the entire ISO 80000 standard in a Java library even
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if we did buy the document for ourselves.
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It should be possible to come to an arrangement with ISO but it will
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likely be some sort of closed source library with license protection
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mechanisms or maybe some service in the "Cloud" users have to pay for.
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I registered the domain "uom.biz <http://uom.biz>" for these kinds of
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cases. Right now it still points to the same project page, but its
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intent is for special unit and conversion needs of businesses. And the
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related modules will no longer be available to the general public,
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just like say a Hazelcast implementation of their JSR 107 standard or
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Oracle Coherence.
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Regards,
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Werner